Comments on: Sir Hugh Lays Down The (Wrong) Law

By: Gordon the Fence Post Tortoise

Gordon the Fence Post Tortoise — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:01:58 +0000

As an inhabitant of the county in question not far from Wootton Bassett I see Hugh Orde’s interference as high handed and frankly worrying.

It is my sincere hope that a new Westminster administration will terminate all contracts nationwide with ACPO, whose policies, governance and influence are at best opaque and at worst – well – I don’t know – and that’s the point = secretive direction of of our police forces by a non accountable private body – is that acceptable?

As for Anjem and his pals – well – perhaps trimming their benefits might cramp their style – but the Guardianista PC brigade would have a hissy fit wouldn’t they?

Wootton Bassett is being set up as a set piece confrontation by scumbuckets with equally deranged worldviews to the Islamoloons and deeply unpleasant motives want to use this town as a hobby horse to leverage their visibility and promote rotten agendas.

Why is it that I suspect Mr. Orde might be amonst those folk?

I’d like to be proved wrong.

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By: Marie Harvey

Marie Harvey — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 10:40:31 +0000

I suspect ‘Big Digger’ may be a troll. Mark Reckless has set out clearly the legal means by which this abhorrent protest may be curtailed, and he has also highlighted quite clearly the pure hypocrisy at the heart of Hugh Orde’s defence of the extremists who seek to cause so much damage to the memory of our honoured dead.

I fully support Mark’s stance on this issue.

By: Brian Woods

Brian Woods — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:45:58 +0000

And Hugh Orde isn’t confused banning marches in Northern Ireland and then defending this vile Islam4UK march – far more offensive than any Orange parade?

No matter how much of a Libertarian one is, there has to be a limit on free speech.

By: Big Digger

Big Digger — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:24:46 +0000

Mr Reckless seems to be hopelessly confused on this issue. One the one hand he (or rather Daniel Hannan) claims himself to be a libertarian (libertarian and Conservative – surely an oxymoron!), but here we have Mr Reckless calling on freedom of speech to be stifled. A rather unusual situation. Sir Hugh Orde n the one hand is defending the right of protest and freedom of speech whilst Mr Reckless seeks to stifle it. As I said, Mr Reckless seems to be hopelessly confused.

By: Fred Storrey

Fred Storrey — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:26:13 +0000

Well said Mark. We don’t just need common sense policing as you advocate, we need more common sense politicans like you who are willing to speak out. Thank you.

By: John Morton

John Morton — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:10:21 +0000

Sir Hugh, no doubt, has links to Common Purpose. This bunch are out to provoke civil strife in UK so they can invite EUROPOL onto our streets to “restore order”, and take the opportunity to flex their new POLICE STATE powers, as granted by the FASCIST LISBON TREATY.

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By: The Boiling Frog

The Boiling Frog — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:25:02 +0000

It was the public order act that was used last year in similar circumstances to ban marches in Luton by, among others, the English Defence League.

http://www.lutontoday.co.uk/lut-news/Fears-of-further-violence-prompt.5577389.jp

Not I’m sure it’s not Sir Hugh Orde’s intention to imply that the law only applies to some parts of society and not others.

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By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:24:42 +0000

I have grave concerns about ACPO and hope that a future Conservative government will look very carefully at that organisation.

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By: Will Jones

Will Jones — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:30:05 +0000

There are two stark ironies in Hugh Orde’s position. Firstly, his assertion that the police should not be involved in politics. He appears to spend every day belching out statements on matters that are political, and his comments here are no different.

Secondly, he spent his time in Northern Ireland banning a march going through an area where the majority of people didn’t want it – ever heard of Drumcree in Portadown? A couple of hundred Orangemen, who had walked the same route for 200 years were told by Orde that they would be stopped by any and all means, with Orde racking up hundreds of millions of pounds in policing costs to block a parade. He blocked the parade for every year he was Chief Constable of the PSNI. What sort of hypocrite then says a grossly offensive parade denigrating our glorious war dead and outraging the public has “every right to happen”?

The Tories need to smash ACPO, a wretched creation on New Labour that jumps when they say how high, and does nothing to improve policing in this country. Questions need to be asked now on what this £18 million per year private business monopoly is doing with the taxpayer’s cash. Orde himself receives a salary of over £180k, a full police pension of 2/3 that amount again, a grace and favour flat, and a civil service pension for his time as ACPO President. And people thought the bankers were bad…